{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"66207086","dateCreated":"1392824369","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Pfohlke","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Pfohlke","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1269442769\/Pfohlke-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/pfohlsushistoryhonors.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/66207086"},"dateDigested":1532428249,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Internet and schools","description":"Are students allowed to mock and insult their teachers and pricipals on social media sites under the First Amendment? Is it appropriate?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"69816156","body":"Students are allowed to post what they want on social media about teachers and administration. Just like all things you must be willing to face the consequences of your actions. It is very unacceptable to be disrespectful to anyone and if it is disrespect to your school you can face possible suspension.","dateCreated":"1392825977","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"steffena1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/steffena1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816216","body":"Yes, students have the right to mock their teachers and faculty. Their right of freedom of expression is protected under the First Amendment. However, it is not appropriate. It is unprofessional. It may also come with many consequences in school, at home, and when try to apply for jobs or colleges.","dateCreated":"1392826030","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"crouthri","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/crouthri","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816244","body":"Students are allowed to mock their teachers. It is their freedom of speech. On the other hand, I think it is inappropriate for students to mock their teachers. Mocking the teacher will not make the teacher any better, only worse.","dateCreated":"1392826070","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"KRIALWY","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/KRIALWY","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816254","body":"I think it is okay to a certain point. I think that a student is just ranting about how they hate their teacher because they assign too much homework and how their projects are really hard is fine. But I think that its too much when they start criticizing their teacher about how they dress or if they're ugly or not. It becomes too much when the students start making fun of a teacher because it can be considered bullying just like it would if the remarks were made to a student.","dateCreated":"1392826092","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"johnsoma","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/johnsoma","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69830772","body":"Yes, students are allowed o mock and insult teacher and principals under the First Amendment.Sense the First Amendment states that you have freedom of speech. Is it right, I guess it depends on what they did. If the teacher or principal is a jerk then yeah, I think it's right to do it, but if your insulting them because their very doltish, then that's not right.","dateCreated":"1392850367","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"breitwan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breitwan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69834304","body":"A student is allowed to mock a teacher on social media but it is completely disrespectful and rude. Plus, the student must be prepared to face consequences such as possible suspension. You should never post anything online that you wouldn't say to someone's face. It is very immature and completely unnecessary to disrespect anyone like that.","dateCreated":"1392859059","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"hamerem","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/hamerem","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69835000","body":"Students are allowed to do this to a certain extent. Actually, no, it is their right to rant about their teachers however they want. They will have to just face all of the consequences appointed to them after they are done with their fit.","dateCreated":"1392860215","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Atkinsni","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Atkinsni","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69835072","body":"Adding on to my comment, no, it is not appropriate nor smart to go on a rant about your teacher and post it on social media. It is quite childish and disrespectful.","dateCreated":"1392860332","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Atkinsni","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Atkinsni","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69835868","body":"Yes students are technically allowed to rant about their teachers on the internet, It is expressing yourself and it is a freedom of speech. Altough it is rude and disrespectful to publically humiliate someone on social networking. There are better ways to deal with feelings like that.","dateCreated":"1392861924","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"littlecl","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/littlecl","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836266","body":"Yes, a student is allowed to mock their teachers on the internet under the first amendment. I don't think it's right because that is disrespectful and inappropriate but other people believe differently. People are allowed to say whatever they want on the internet only if they can face the consequences.","dateCreated":"1392862776","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"brodheol","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/brodheol","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836856","body":"I think a student has the right to mock a teacher over the internet, and that teachers should understand that if they teach high school, they should expect their students to mock them because there will always be someone who does not care about school and hates their teacher. However, it is not appropriate to do so because it is very disrespectful and if they attack the teacher in the right place, they can do some damage to the teacher.","dateCreated":"1392864302","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Aparicse","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Aparicse","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1423076272\/Aparicse-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69862572","body":"Under the First Amendment students are able to mock and insult their teacher\/s on social media sites, because they are using their freedom of speech and expressing their opinion. This does not mean it is appropriate though. When students do this they are disrespecting their teacher\/s and will have to face the consequences.","dateCreated":"1392936285","smartDate":"Feb 20, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"whitmash","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/whitmash","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":12}]},{"id":"61391182","dateCreated":"1360073891","smartDate":"Feb 5, 2013","userCreated":{"username":"Pfohlke","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Pfohlke","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1269442769\/Pfohlke-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/pfohlsushistoryhonors.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/61391182"},"dateDigested":1532428250,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Juveniles and the Death Penalty","description":"Is the use of the death penalty on juveniles cruel and unusual punishment? Why or why not?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"69815874","body":"I do not think the death penalty is not cruel but only to a certain age. I think that once you have learned a little about the government and the difference between right and wrong, you cannot do something that can be appointed by the death penalty. It's common sense to not do something that wrong so if you do, you deserve a punishment just like everyone else eighteen and above gets. Some people say it's not right because they are young and need to learn from their mistakes but a thirty year old can make a mistake for the first time and learn from it too. So, I think the death penalty for minors is not wrong.","dateCreated":"1392825646","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"johnsoma","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/johnsoma","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69815906","body":"I believe that it depends on the situation and the person. If a juvenile went around, murdering people just to get a laugh out of it, I believe that they deserve cruel and unusual punishment. Even though they are young, they still know the difference from right and wrong, and its pretty obvious that taking someone's life is not only a crime but morally wrong. But suppose someone stole something from a store, I don't believe that cruel and unusual punishment is necessary in that situation.","dateCreated":"1392825685","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"DRAIDFKR1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/DRAIDFKR1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816336","body":"It depends on the situation. If the juvenile were to commit a crime that warranted them to a death sentence, then in must be done. A child should not be allowed to run around killing people knowing they will never be able to get the death sentence. However, it would be cruel and unusual to give a child the death sentence if they do not deserve it.","dateCreated":"1392826186","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"kristend123","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kristend123","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69826968","body":"I believe that sentencing a juvenile to the death penalty is considered a cruel and unusual punishment. A juvenile doesn't know any better and they are too young to have their life ended because of a mistake. Young people usually learn by what they experience happen themselves. They could've just seen their parents do something like that and thought it was okay. Also, they can be influenced from video games and television shows and that could make them feel its okay too. However under some circumstances it could be considered reasonable, if a juvenile runs around killing everybody in sight then that is understandable to give them the death penalty but I think that for the most part you should just have them pay the time for whatever they do that breaks the law.","dateCreated":"1392841712","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"sheppsha","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/sheppsha","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69830444","body":"I think it depends on what they did to deserve the death penalty. If their going around killing people that's a big problem and yeah they should be put to death, but if their going around sealing cars then I don't see why you should be put to death. I think it all depends on the crime.","dateCreated":"1392849709","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"breitwan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breitwan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69833612","body":"I don't think it is cruel and unusual. If a juvenile is a murderer then I absolutely think it should be used and he or she should be treated the same as an adult. The death penalty is never used if the crime isn't serious. So if someone is a murderer, then the death penalty isn't cruel no matter what age the person is.","dateCreated":"1392857533","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"hamerem","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/hamerem","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69834038","body":"That is a very touchy subject which is why, I guess, we are discussing it. I believe that bad people come in all shapes and forms; but do I believe a twelve year old should be placed to on death row? No, but I, honestly, do believe that the death penalty could be lowered to about sixteen or seventeen. Why? Because, by that time, an individual has grown and experienced enough to see what is right from wrong. All I am saying is is that if a twenty-one year old commits a crime, horrific enough, to sentence them to death and a seventeen year old commits the same crime I believe that person should receive the same punishment.","dateCreated":"1392858644","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Atkinsni","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Atkinsni","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836386","body":"I believe that if a juvenile does crime such as murder in such a horrible way, then no its not cruel. But it also depends on the situation. If this kid has done some gruesome things then they should be treated the same as an adult. if it is horrific enough for the death penelty then yes it is okay to have the same consequences.","dateCreated":"1392863008","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"littlecl","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/littlecl","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836606","body":"I think the death penalty for a juvenile is necessary on certain occasions. Yes, children learn from their mistakes but depending on their age the crimes they commit are not mistakes. If they are a juvenile but are almost an adult and commit crimes that adults commit then yes they should be put to death. Juveniles still need to take responsibility for their actions.","dateCreated":"1392863621","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"brodheol","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/brodheol","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836706","body":"I believe that the death sentence can be given to anyone, regardless of age, gender, or anything else, if they have committed a crime bad enough. I personally do not see why children are viewed differently as adults, as if as soon as you turn eight-teen everyone believes what you tell them. The only difference is their age, their lack of experience in life, and their "innocence", meaning that they do not know how cruel life can be. I do not see this as such a difference that juveniles be viewed much differently from adults, and I see that juveniles can be given the death penalty just like they are given to adults. Anyone over the age of nine or ten should be able to see right from wrong in that extreme of a sense. Even if they are eleven or twelve years old, if they do something bad enough, yes they can receive it regardless of age","dateCreated":"1392863978","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Aparicse","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Aparicse","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1423076272\/Aparicse-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69862840","body":"Once again I do not agree with the death penalty at all. What gives us the right to decide whether someone is to live or die. Juveniles should of course be punished but not as bad as adults because they have not had the same life experience. I think the death penalty is definitely cruel and unusual. Who wants to kill a kid, murderer or not. To be honest in my mind they should be given help. We can not just kill off every person who does something wrong. There is evil in all of us.","dateCreated":"1392936875","smartDate":"Feb 20, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"whitmash","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/whitmash","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69928050","body":"I don't agree that anyone should die no matter how bad the problem is. They had no problem doing what they did, so they should have no problem doing the punishment. The punishment should be locked up in jail for a long time, with no going outside. They shouldn't have the privilege to go outside and doing other things in jail that most people do, if the crime was like killing someone and more. But no one should die for a punishment.","dateCreated":"1393206874","smartDate":"Feb 23, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"negliani","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/negliani","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":11}]},{"id":"61391168","dateCreated":"1360073751","smartDate":"Feb 5, 2013","userCreated":{"username":"Pfohlke","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Pfohlke","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1269442769\/Pfohlke-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/pfohlsushistoryhonors.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/61391168"},"dateDigested":1532428252,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Death Penalty","description":"What do you think is the purpose of the death penalty? Are the different types of death sentences cruel and unusual? Should it be cruel and unusual?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"69816452","body":"The purpose of the death penalty is to give a fair punishment to a person that has taken the life of other people. It is not right that they only get life in jail and get to live when they have killed a person or more than one person. No I do not think the certain types of death penalty are cruel and unusual because then they get to experience something like what they did to the person they killed. No this should not be cruel and unusual because its not nasty and gross. Its only a lethal injection that puts you asleep, theyre not doing anything unusual.","dateCreated":"1392826321","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"johnsoma","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/johnsoma","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69827216","body":"I think that the purpose of the death penalty is to rid the world of people who cause harm to other people's lives and are only going to do damage to the society. If somebody murders somebody else I believe that they should have to die too. An eye for and eye. It is unfair for somebody to end someone else's life and only have to sit in a jail cell for a few years or even the rest of their life. If you do something cruel and unusual to another human being why is the government not allowed to do something cruel and unusual to you? It's only fair. I do believe that some of the types of the death penalty are cruel and unusual though; like the electric chair for instance. I think it is just messed up to lock someone in a chair and electrocute them until they are dead but I do believe that if the criminal deserves the death penalty then that's what they should be sentenced to.","dateCreated":"1392842282","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"sheppsha","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/sheppsha","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69829612","body":"The purpose of the death penalty is to annihilate crime.The difference types of death sentences can be cruel and unusual. I guess it all depends on the crime committed. Again with the hole point of what crime was committed, the punishment of the different deaths are yes, cruel but in all honesty no one deserves to die. Put in jail yes, but I personally think that the choice of death is up to God,not to a human being.","dateCreated":"1392847723","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"breitwan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breitwan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69830434","body":"I think the death penalty has different purposes. One purpose is to deter crime by giving the future murders a warning to what their punishment would be if they committed such a crime. Another purpose is to give the prisoner the rightful punishment they deserve. Being totally truthful though, I do not agree with the death penalty. I know that everyone that receives the sentence deserves it, but if you are killing them aren't you just dropping to their level. The real torture would be for them to have to live with blood on their hands. I think the types of death sentences are cruel and unusual. I know they deserve what they get but there is just something wrong with torturing or killing another human being. I do not think that their death should be cruel and unusual.","dateCreated":"1392849688","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"whitmash","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/whitmash","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69830702","body":"The purpose of the death penalty is to eliminate the people who have committed such an extreme crime and that deserve this type of punishment. I feel that if you can do so much as murder hundreds of people and commit other serious crimes, you kind of deserve to die. If you take someone's life by choice, you don't really deserve to live the rest your life. However, I do think that some of the punishments are a little extreme and unusual.","dateCreated":"1392850234","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"DRAIDFKR1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/DRAIDFKR1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69833816","body":"I think that the purpose of death penalty is to deter crime. I don't think that any of the death sentences are cruel and unusual. I think that if someone purposely takes another person's life then they deserve to have the same thing done to them.","dateCreated":"1392858130","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"hamerem","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/hamerem","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69834564","body":"The purpose of the death penalty is for people whom have committed a crime so heinous that there is no way a little of jail time is going to "change" them into being a model citizen. I do find some of the death sentences a bit unusual but not cruel. This is because, for that person to something so inhuman to another person I think what ever they receive is what they deserve.","dateCreated":"1392859448","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Atkinsni","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Atkinsni","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836034","body":"The purpose of the death penalty is to punish people who have commited a horrible, evil crime that even life in prison is not enough. I feel some of them are unusual but certainly not cruel. For taking the life of another innocent person or especially child, you deserve what you get.","dateCreated":"1392862248","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"littlecl","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/littlecl","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836100","body":"A purpose of the death penalty is to eliminate crime and show people there are consequences to their actions. Some types of punishment definitely are unusual but only cruel if it doesn't fit the crime. If it was a very cruel and unusual crime then it should be a cruel and unusual punishment to fit the crime committed.","dateCreated":"1392862408","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"brodheol","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/brodheol","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69837150","body":"The purpose of the death penalty is not only to eliminate a horrible criminal, but stop future people from committing those same crimes. If the criminal is bad enough, any death sentence is not cruel. It probably is not worse than what they did to other people. My stepmother always says that if you cannot take it, do not dish it out. I think that whether the punishment is cruel or not should be determined by how bad the crime or crimes committed were","dateCreated":"1392864994","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Aparicse","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Aparicse","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1423076272\/Aparicse-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69928310","body":"A death penalty is so the person who committed a crime doesn't commit anymore and don't have a life just like the person he killed. Its to stop crimes that they might cause in the future. I find all death penalty's cruel. I don't think anyone should die. Doesn't mean they can get away with it, it just means they should have to face the pain and the misery for the rest of there lives just like that person families will feel because of the member they lost.","dateCreated":"1393207485","smartDate":"Feb 23, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"negliani","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/negliani","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"70594130","body":"I believe the purpose of a death penalty is the same as any other consequence that comes with a crime: punishment for your action. One type of death sentence isn't any more cruel and unusual than the next. If the criminal is getting death penalty, then I'm almost positive that what they did was worse than however they will be killed. And I hate to say it but, even if it hurts that criminal for the time being, they're going to die anyways. If death penalty fits the crime, it is not cruel or unusual to punish them with death.","dateCreated":"1395068824","smartDate":"Mar 17, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"crouthri","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/crouthri","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":12}]},{"id":"60064738","dateCreated":"1346587600","smartDate":"Sep 2, 2012","userCreated":{"username":"Pfohlke","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Pfohlke","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1269442769\/Pfohlke-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/pfohlsushistoryhonors.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/60064738"},"dateDigested":1532428253,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Fourth Amendment","description":"Police need to obtain a warrant in order to search you, your house or your possessions unless there is probable cause. If a police officer cannot obtain a warrant for a search and they do not have probable cause, do you think it is ethical for a police officer to "fabricate" probable cause in order to stop possible illegal activity?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"69816260","body":"I believe that it is very unethical and unfair. If they wanted to be fair they would use a logical reason and get a warrant then it would be appropriate to search someone's belongings. You cannot just pick somebody and say they look suspicious and search them.","dateCreated":"1392826103","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"sheppsha","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/sheppsha","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816358","body":"I believe letting this happen is very unethical. Officers or government officials should not be allowed to fabricate probable cause to get into a persons home if they can not get a warrant.","dateCreated":"1392826203","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"brodheol","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/brodheol","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69830182","body":"I personally think as long as their not just walking into your house I don't see anything wrong with them not having a warrant, as long as they at lease they tell you what your being accused of and why I don't see anything wrong with it. Only for the fact that if say your being accused of a myth lab in your basement, you'll be fine with them looking in your basement if your not guilty , but if you really do then I can see why you would want a warrant.","dateCreated":"1392849127","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"breitwan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breitwan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69830924","body":"I think it depends on the situation. If a police officer suspects that you have lethal weapons, drugs or any other illegal substances that could potentially harm someone or an abundance of people, I believe they should do what they can so they can protect the people. By the Mexican border, smuggling of drugs is becoming pretty common nowadays a long with other illegal actions. If the police can stop chaos before it happens, I don't think it's unethical. On the other hand, if they want to search you just because you "look suspicious" just because you did something as stupid as looked at them for too long,and now they want to search you, I think thats pretty dumb. I hope that made sense to you..","dateCreated":"1392850821","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"DRAIDFKR1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/DRAIDFKR1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69832226","body":"This would be completely unethical. They should have a logical reason with a warrant if they want to search someone's property. They should not be able to just pick someone to search for no reason.","dateCreated":"1392854014","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"ahlerska1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ahlerska1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69834032","body":"I think that this would be completely unnecessary and unethical. If there is a suspicion, then an officer should be able to get a warrant. It would be ridiculous for a police officer to make up a "probable cause" when a crime wasn't actually occurring, just to search a house. It would only cause additional problems.","dateCreated":"1392858636","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"hamerem","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/hamerem","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69834276","body":"No, that would be unethical. For the simple fact that, just because an officer has a "hunch" or a "strong feeling" as to why they believe it is crucial for them to search someones house is ludicrous. I am not saying that a police officer or a figure of the law is always wrong, but I think it would just inconvenience a lot of innocent citizens.","dateCreated":"1392859010","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Atkinsni","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Atkinsni","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836146","body":"I believe it is unfair and completely unnescessary. If someone seems supicious, the officer can get a warrent. Otherwise there is no real reason to just search anyone they please. It's just unethical.","dateCreated":"1392862529","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"littlecl","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/littlecl","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69836952","body":"The Police officer should not have a problem getting a warrant if there is solid evidence that suspicious activity is going on. I feel that it is ultimately unethical to do this. If they cannot get a warrant, then there is a good chance that there is no suspicious activity going on","dateCreated":"1392864563","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Aparicse","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Aparicse","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1423076272\/Aparicse-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69862214","body":"I believe that it is very unethical for a police officer to fabricate a probable cause to search someone in case of "possible illegal activity." A police officer could make up a fake problem to search someone because they look suspicious. Anyway don't the police have other real criminals to search, why waste their time on people they don't have a real cause to search.","dateCreated":"1392935412","smartDate":"Feb 20, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"whitmash","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/whitmash","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69928182","body":"If a police had something to check you for they wouldn't be a problem getting a search warrant. The police shouldn't just think other wise of you just cause he is suspicious of someone, there has to be evidence and prof for a search warrant, other wise they look stupid for search you for nothing.","dateCreated":"1393207187","smartDate":"Feb 23, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"negliani","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/negliani","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"70594066","body":"I think that if there is not a probable cause to why he wants to search you then he should not be allowed. I think there should be a logical reason on why they feel the need to search you, your house, or your possessions.","dateCreated":"1395068703","smartDate":"Mar 17, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"johnsoma","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/johnsoma","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":11}]},{"id":"60064720","dateCreated":"1346587306","smartDate":"Sep 2, 2012","userCreated":{"username":"Pfohlke","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Pfohlke","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1269442769\/Pfohlke-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/pfohlsushistoryhonors.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/60064720"},"dateDigested":1532428255,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Second Amendment","description":"Would schools be safer if teachers were allowed to carry guns in school?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"69816030","body":"No, I do not believe schools would be safer if teachers carried guns. There would be more of a chance of a student having access to a gun. Teachers having guns would be more of a danger than a safety precaution.","dateCreated":"1392825808","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"ahlerska1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ahlerska1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816094","body":"I believe schools would be safer if teachers carried guns because if a teacher has the ability to go to school everyday and deal with annoying and obnoxious kids all day, im pretty sure they can have the mental capacity to carry a gun with them to protect the kids if an emergency ever happened. However I think the teachers should have to get their carrying permit with them as well.","dateCreated":"1392825904","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"johnsoma","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/johnsoma","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816218","body":"No, I do not think schools would be safer if the teachers carried guns. I think it could cause more problems. If a troubled kid were to get their hands on this gun, there could be serious consequences. It is a huge safety hazard to have a gun in the classroom!","dateCreated":"1392826033","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"kristend123","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kristend123","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816256","body":"If teachers were allowed to be armed while in school, I think most people would feel safer, if our teachers knew how to use them correctly. If they were to have a gun with them, I would prefer that they had shooting lessons and their permit, but that's my opinion.","dateCreated":"1392826097","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"DRAIDFKR1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/DRAIDFKR1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816304","body":"I believe this will likely make it safer. It has been proven that armed citizens or guards have stopped numerous mass shootings. If we did not have any armed teachers, intruders would be able to gun us down without any resistance until the police arrives, which could be tens of minutes. Although this is safer, having students' teachers' who give them detention all of the time holding an M16 may not make them very comfortable, and may distract them from learning.","dateCreated":"1392826131","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Aparicse","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Aparicse","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1423076272\/Aparicse-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816382","body":"I do not believe that teachers should carry guns. There are too many risks giving a teacher a gun. If there is an event of a shooting in a school how many teachers would actually have the courage to pull the trigger and shoot to kill another living person. Also by having the teacher have a gun it would also give students the chance to get their hands on one by stealing it from them. There is also a chance that the teacher may accidently fire the gun. It would be safer for both the students and the teachers if every class had a fire extinguisher.","dateCreated":"1392826228","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"whitmash","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/whitmash","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816396","body":"In my opinion, teachers and administrators should not be allowed to carry guns with them in a school setting. Allowing teachers to carry guns only puts the hundreds of students in more danger. Even though the teachers may be responsible with their firearms, the students may not. There is always the possibility of the students finding out where the guns are and using them for wrong reasons. In addition, if there is a break in the school, there is higher chance the burglar would get a hold of one.","dateCreated":"1392826251","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"KRYZANTA","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/KRYZANTA","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816410","body":"It is hard to say whether or not a school would be a safe setting for a gun. It all depends on the situation. For example, in a life threatening situation in which a gun would stop the problem and provide safety, it would be safe. But also, if the gun got in the wrong hands, it could cause more trouble than its worth.","dateCreated":"1392826268","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"crouthri","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/crouthri","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816416","body":"I don't think that school would be safer if guns were allowed in schools. if the teacher doesn't have the authority to carry a gun around the school. If a teacher ever gets angry they could use the gun and harm students. I believe allowing teachers to carry a gun would higher the risk of school shootings. If the school wants to be more safe they can hire people to do so.","dateCreated":"1392826270","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"sheppsha","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/sheppsha","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69816432","body":"I do not believe that the school would be safer if teachers carried guns around. Yes they would have a weapon just incase an intruder came into our school, but some student and some teachers are just not trustable. Students could take the gun away from the teacher, and shoot other students, or even the teacher for revenge. Any one could take the gun and shoot if the teacher isn't smart enough. That's why I don't think It would be safe.","dateCreated":"1392826301","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"negliani","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/negliani","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69829840","body":"I would have to say yes and no. Yes because people would be scared to do anything violent to the school, but no because some people may not have a violent back round but are really insane, people just don't know it so they might so insane and shoot their students.","dateCreated":"1392848228","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"breitwan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breitwan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"69834846","body":"No, I do not think any teachers should be able to carry a gun around school. If people are that concerned then they should high school security to assure some type of safety. For instance, a teacher can be having a horrendous month everything has been going horribly for them. They come to work. Now, it is first block and no one has done their homework. They said it was "stupid and they would not benefit from it". Boom! Teacher goes on a rampage.","dateCreated":"1392859963","smartDate":"Feb 19, 2014","userCreated":{"username":"Atkinsni","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Atkinsni","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":13}]}],"more":false},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}